Overall, I'm highly impressed. The only bone of contention I have is referring to anything as an "immune" system. From what I can tell, We have a detox system, and if You replace where You say "immune system" with "detox system," it still makes perfect sense.
Thanks for this excellent look at the things We emerged with and the disruptors!
I agree. Everything we have been told about our biology and systems is highly debatable and questionable! I feel like the real "immune system" we have is our detox system.
Interestin' there are good parasites...as well as "baddies" -- just like bacteria -- some really bad bugs kin wreck yer health but the good'uns should be supported (hence probiotics, fermented foods, etc)
We "Lymies" (not the british kind) know ta beware of "herxing" (Herxheimer reaction) tryin' out any new remedy similarly to what'cha describe with the IVM. Fer this reason (toxins released) w/ lyme ye gotta take stuff like chlorella ta clear out the released "toxins" from "die off" as it's called.... When folks treat Lyme too aggressively they end up WORSE so the condition yer describin' is mirrored w/Lyme. Dr. Lee Merrit has done a lot on parasitic toxins as related ta covid inflammation an' she pulses treatment so not ta overdo... Wormwood mebbe better than IVM (works great on humans, pets--an' you DO wanna deworm yer puppies....gently).
I think this touches on a whole (haha) can of WORMS... we don'wanna VILLI(ha!)fy all these critters--some do good, an' we wanna be aware they may be the symptom not the cause (good pernt!)
fwiw (within the wonderful--not!--world of lymies....) some of us got hit full "bullseye" first time out (a clear mark of an already vulnerable /immuno compromised body the ticks could "smell" a mile away) VS others we all know that were exposed ta tick bites for YEARS--even in high-lyme areas--an' never got lyme. I think ticks are kinda scent-ient that way... they KNOW "whom" to bite -- damned lil' Sherlocks makin' their "Holmes" in our bodies ;-)
ps I do believe Lyme was a bioweapon but whatever they did ta them ticks in the Plum Island Labs to "weaponize" 'em seems to have made 'em literally parasite BOMBS! fer some of us at least
I am open to anything but...what if...we were told of secret military operations with things like ticks just to scare the ever living bejeezs out of us and divert us from things that really cause symptoms like "Lyme disease" which seems to overlap and have vague symptoms with other things caused by being sprayed with tons of chemicals, being fed junk foods, having chemically contaminated water, being vaccinated to the hilte, constantly being stressed and made to fear everything, etc... What IF...ticks and bacteria don't really cause anything. They are just pinned as the culprit????????? I know ticks cause the classic bullseye after they bite...but what if that really doesn't do anything but we're told it does. Just like mosquitoes, etc... If a group of psychopaths were to carry out the biggest genocide ever would they really let us know how they were doing it? Or would they try to throw us off a bit? Why should we believe any of their research or medicine?
RE What IF...ticks and bacteria don't really cause anything. They are just pinned as the culprit?
also open ta such things but ticks DO cause gawdawful symptoms ta many of us--direct response; fer example, my symptoms came full force after the classic bullseye hit me shortly after a campin' trip with my girls (some folks don't git the bullseye tho'... but they kin back track symptoms to exposure) Symptoms were UNIQUE --the crazy-stiff ouchy neck & joints, etc. All better w/ a lyme-specific (no antibiotics) treat-mint--tho' not half as tasty as mint! Major foul-tastin' but uber helpful chinese herbs + homeopathic protocols --quite a few lingerin' symptoms still tho'... so there's that...
I know quite a few fellow lymies who had same experience in terms of symptoms not traceable to other issues... Me & my fam have eaten Weston A Price 20+ years--no commercial stuff--all organic/grassfed/raw yadayada, no junk food (no exceptions), GF since 2004, no jabs since the 1990s, not a fearful gal, only spring/fluoride-free filted water fer 20+ years an' I STILL I got Lyme that fateful day. The chemtrails are a given nuttin' we kin do about 'em--NY State skies are a checkerboard of 'em but I got my lyme in 2014 when it wasn't near-half as bad... Oh, an' I have only wired connections, rarely use my cell (it stays off most times), incandescent not LED lights... It wuz.. ticks an' tracin' the history of 'em we see that the ones causin' harm started in Lyme CT/& Westchester NY an' spread from there over a 30-ish yr period.
IMHO knowledge of the secret ops that got spread 'round like nutella DID cause fear but there's a lotta proof of the secret labs & 'speriments here'bouts showin' it all happened--have read many Montauk-related testimonies/ SRA survivors too--it's all LINKED an' the insty-2-shuns collaborated.
Now that said, makin' an insect more harmful is likely not "rocket" science (tho' the nazi rocket PSY-intists likely had much ta do with it all). Out here, Lyme is quite common an' (imho) real--the formal tests are unreliable but the symptoms are clear / common (tho' varied) an' folks with auto-immune vulnerabilities tend ta git it first...
I don't mind anyone questionin' the "biolab" narrative but that Plum Island IS a biolab is undeniable... Lee Zeldin (bless his heart, otherwise a good guy) is tryin' to "keep NY jobs in NY by keepin' Plum Is. Labs it open"--b/c they're movin' ta somewhere in the West (i.e. the lab there)--so the only question is IF the ticks were not purposefully weaponized (inventin' some weapon possibly fer wars or foreigners that mebbe got out? Or mebbe fer "us" in the first place...) THEN what environment was unique to the area that caused 'em to mutate to do more harm? There were certainly RF tests & nuke tests & other stuff... mebbe early 5G rollout tests even back then? Who knows? So it could have been a "consequence" of something else...I'll consider that too!
As fer bugs (bacteria) we don't git it--but the microbiome thing.... whatever ye call bacteria--healthy or unhealthy is huge... it's not just outside forces either; it's what "in us"--I know folks cured of cancers aided (muchly) by probiotic fermented foods an' we know that when humans git antibiotics an' do NOT supplement wisely with probiotics they git yeast infections, stomick troubles, bad inflammation or ...cancers... so we cannot just say that "bacteria" (or whatever one wants ta call 'em) is all a fiction (IMHO) because if that warn't so then healin' probiotic foods (or supps) would do squat...
I know we've been lied to 'n fed w/fear factor but I think a counter-op exists to wipe out the baby with the bathwarter (all babies!)... The new push is ta say no vitamins help ever ever... bacteria, germs, do not exist... but I think we need ta proceed with a modicum of common sense... some things (vit c includin' synthetic) kin perform miracles (I swear by the orthomolecular approach) -- we've gotten rid of food poisonin' an' all manner of ills with mega C... (which quite a few try ta dismiss as just chemic-ulls from chyna... we git the non-gmo kind from scottland...) Anywhoo... ditto fer "germs" whatever they are--I know the virus thing is balloney--but JJCouey tries ta splain that if we throw out all forms of passin' along disease--an' just say oh, it's just frequency, oh it's just the cold, oh it's just unhealthy diet--it's just a different OP on the other side even tho' we know ALL these factors do affect "transmission"... but transmission exists...in real time (we just don't understand the apparatus nor do the "docs" yet...imho)
IMHO we wanna question everythin', toss out Rocky-fellah medi-SIN an' yet not toss out real knowledge gained / gleaned over thousands of years... If germs were fiction how come just warshin' yer hands stops folks gettin' sick or worse (like the dokturds that killed their patients havin' dissected corpses 'fore deliverin' babies whilst all them midwives knew ta use hot water an' soap an' had NO such losses in the lives of the mamas or babies they helped bring inta the world)
I DO agree that frequency & light are a huge factor tho'! Anywho.... the psychopaths are lettin' us in on their genocide b/c it's a real kinda thing to "reveal the method" at some point... (gematria ain't my speciality)... collective adrenochrome invocation (ha ha) I dunno--but fer many moons it all WAS secret... OR at least submerged (within predictive programmin' fer example). I'm just keepin' my ears open!
I do like yer addition to the mix of some parasites bein' good tho'--interestin' "you stuff! ;-) "
Thank you for your response. Probiotics and fermented foods are amazing. I am sorry that you had symptoms like that! I am gonna do some digging on some of the info you sent. Thank you.
yup an' herbs too! Stephen Buhner was the best protocol... (funny story--I got lyme by "goin'" in the woods in tall grass--Catskills if ye know 'em--my girls REFUSED to pee in the woods an' I teased 'em 'bout it too--they used the official loo a little hike away--I got lyme, they didn't! they had the last laff...I've had the gift that keeps on givin' fer over a decade! (probiotics are good for lyme too as...ye wanna clear everything-toxin out "regularly" lol)
Our gut biomes are so important for our health!!!! Peeing in the woods or at gas stations is scary business for a girl!!!! LOL. I totally would do the same. With your diagnosis...I am totally curious...have you ever done a heavy metal screen or done any kind of toxicology screen to see if anything shows up? Does your lab work show up as normal if you have it done? I am gonna do a deep dive on Lyme now. Of course you totally don't have to answer. I am being totally intrusive. Just if you want to share...
yup! only thing higher than normal on recent heavy metals was lead--Doctor's Data--but that's likely from our funky old house (long story but we had ta leave NYShitty as both the mister & I were outta work for not takin' the countermeasures)--I've done a detox since... gives a new meanin' ta "gettin' the lead out!" -- could be heavy metals have a signal of their own... I would not have conventional Lyme testin' done--it's unreliable an' spendy--I had friends that treated it conventionally an' fared lots worse than I.... an' the holistic ones (most) don't even bother testin'.... jus sayin'
Fascinating about the ticks going after people who are immune system vulnerable. I knew a woman at work who had lyme for years. She had vacation property somewhere near Lyme, CN.
Initially she didn't know what it was. It was denied and hard to find treatment. She had a number of joint problems as a result of being blown off by doctors and not finding any treatment. Lately there is more info about it.
yup, it's anecdotal but seems ta apply to literally everyone I know that got Lyme... an' this fella I knew that grew up in CT (born in the 80's) an' got tick bites all the time had ZERO auto-immune issues (no allergies, eczema, nothin') so it sez that certain folks are less vulnerable (or "run" at a frequency that keeps 'em safe!)
Nice discussion about not wanting to wholesale kill "bad" things off, or rather things that have been designated as bad, but many of which may be helpful.
Here is another angle from which to see cancer: Dr. Jason Fung* talks about the links between intermittent fasting, diabetes and cancer. He focuses on a new way of seeing insulin.
Old way: Insulin pushes glucose into cells that have become "insulin resistent". Problems arise when type 2 diabetics are given insulin, it ultimately makes matters worse, including making weight very hard to lose/obesity. Then the association between obesity and cancer.
New way: Insulin is a growth factor. We don't want to overdose on a growth factor which "feeds" cancerous cells. Fasting under certain conditions can help reverse this.
Intermittent fasting can help with inflammation as well.
Not sure I did this justice, but a summary anyhow, if you want accurate details, etc. at the youtube link.
This leads me to think about how sugar and junk food, high carbs, etc are a factor both in the gut biome and insulin production.
*I'm a fan of Dr Fung's approach to intermittent fasting. Once I cut out sugar and those high carbs and then started to follow his plan, I lost weight effortlessly, without a lot of fuss. I'd already gone off sugar/high carbs and that was a week or two of intense cravings. He talks about this in his book. I started to feel great once doing this and went from hovering around overweight to the bottom of normal weight. I'd tried for decades to lose that weight, but his approach worked for me. My inflammation decreased considerably.
Overall, I'm highly impressed. The only bone of contention I have is referring to anything as an "immune" system. From what I can tell, We have a detox system, and if You replace where You say "immune system" with "detox system," it still makes perfect sense.
Thanks for this excellent look at the things We emerged with and the disruptors!
I agree. Everything we have been told about our biology and systems is highly debatable and questionable! I feel like the real "immune system" we have is our detox system.
I would say that is precisely it! Haha! Thanks for Your response!
It’s possible that ivermectin itself is toxic - yes???
Definitely. But I am getting over the whole parasites cause cancer hurdle with all the trolling I have been getting as of late.
Interestin' there are good parasites...as well as "baddies" -- just like bacteria -- some really bad bugs kin wreck yer health but the good'uns should be supported (hence probiotics, fermented foods, etc)
We "Lymies" (not the british kind) know ta beware of "herxing" (Herxheimer reaction) tryin' out any new remedy similarly to what'cha describe with the IVM. Fer this reason (toxins released) w/ lyme ye gotta take stuff like chlorella ta clear out the released "toxins" from "die off" as it's called.... When folks treat Lyme too aggressively they end up WORSE so the condition yer describin' is mirrored w/Lyme. Dr. Lee Merrit has done a lot on parasitic toxins as related ta covid inflammation an' she pulses treatment so not ta overdo... Wormwood mebbe better than IVM (works great on humans, pets--an' you DO wanna deworm yer puppies....gently).
I think this touches on a whole (haha) can of WORMS... we don'wanna VILLI(ha!)fy all these critters--some do good, an' we wanna be aware they may be the symptom not the cause (good pernt!)
fwiw (within the wonderful--not!--world of lymies....) some of us got hit full "bullseye" first time out (a clear mark of an already vulnerable /immuno compromised body the ticks could "smell" a mile away) VS others we all know that were exposed ta tick bites for YEARS--even in high-lyme areas--an' never got lyme. I think ticks are kinda scent-ient that way... they KNOW "whom" to bite -- damned lil' Sherlocks makin' their "Holmes" in our bodies ;-)
ps I do believe Lyme was a bioweapon but whatever they did ta them ticks in the Plum Island Labs to "weaponize" 'em seems to have made 'em literally parasite BOMBS! fer some of us at least
I am open to anything but...what if...we were told of secret military operations with things like ticks just to scare the ever living bejeezs out of us and divert us from things that really cause symptoms like "Lyme disease" which seems to overlap and have vague symptoms with other things caused by being sprayed with tons of chemicals, being fed junk foods, having chemically contaminated water, being vaccinated to the hilte, constantly being stressed and made to fear everything, etc... What IF...ticks and bacteria don't really cause anything. They are just pinned as the culprit????????? I know ticks cause the classic bullseye after they bite...but what if that really doesn't do anything but we're told it does. Just like mosquitoes, etc... If a group of psychopaths were to carry out the biggest genocide ever would they really let us know how they were doing it? Or would they try to throw us off a bit? Why should we believe any of their research or medicine?
RE What IF...ticks and bacteria don't really cause anything. They are just pinned as the culprit?
also open ta such things but ticks DO cause gawdawful symptoms ta many of us--direct response; fer example, my symptoms came full force after the classic bullseye hit me shortly after a campin' trip with my girls (some folks don't git the bullseye tho'... but they kin back track symptoms to exposure) Symptoms were UNIQUE --the crazy-stiff ouchy neck & joints, etc. All better w/ a lyme-specific (no antibiotics) treat-mint--tho' not half as tasty as mint! Major foul-tastin' but uber helpful chinese herbs + homeopathic protocols --quite a few lingerin' symptoms still tho'... so there's that...
I know quite a few fellow lymies who had same experience in terms of symptoms not traceable to other issues... Me & my fam have eaten Weston A Price 20+ years--no commercial stuff--all organic/grassfed/raw yadayada, no junk food (no exceptions), GF since 2004, no jabs since the 1990s, not a fearful gal, only spring/fluoride-free filted water fer 20+ years an' I STILL I got Lyme that fateful day. The chemtrails are a given nuttin' we kin do about 'em--NY State skies are a checkerboard of 'em but I got my lyme in 2014 when it wasn't near-half as bad... Oh, an' I have only wired connections, rarely use my cell (it stays off most times), incandescent not LED lights... It wuz.. ticks an' tracin' the history of 'em we see that the ones causin' harm started in Lyme CT/& Westchester NY an' spread from there over a 30-ish yr period.
IMHO knowledge of the secret ops that got spread 'round like nutella DID cause fear but there's a lotta proof of the secret labs & 'speriments here'bouts showin' it all happened--have read many Montauk-related testimonies/ SRA survivors too--it's all LINKED an' the insty-2-shuns collaborated.
Now that said, makin' an insect more harmful is likely not "rocket" science (tho' the nazi rocket PSY-intists likely had much ta do with it all). Out here, Lyme is quite common an' (imho) real--the formal tests are unreliable but the symptoms are clear / common (tho' varied) an' folks with auto-immune vulnerabilities tend ta git it first...
I don't mind anyone questionin' the "biolab" narrative but that Plum Island IS a biolab is undeniable... Lee Zeldin (bless his heart, otherwise a good guy) is tryin' to "keep NY jobs in NY by keepin' Plum Is. Labs it open"--b/c they're movin' ta somewhere in the West (i.e. the lab there)--so the only question is IF the ticks were not purposefully weaponized (inventin' some weapon possibly fer wars or foreigners that mebbe got out? Or mebbe fer "us" in the first place...) THEN what environment was unique to the area that caused 'em to mutate to do more harm? There were certainly RF tests & nuke tests & other stuff... mebbe early 5G rollout tests even back then? Who knows? So it could have been a "consequence" of something else...I'll consider that too!
As fer bugs (bacteria) we don't git it--but the microbiome thing.... whatever ye call bacteria--healthy or unhealthy is huge... it's not just outside forces either; it's what "in us"--I know folks cured of cancers aided (muchly) by probiotic fermented foods an' we know that when humans git antibiotics an' do NOT supplement wisely with probiotics they git yeast infections, stomick troubles, bad inflammation or ...cancers... so we cannot just say that "bacteria" (or whatever one wants ta call 'em) is all a fiction (IMHO) because if that warn't so then healin' probiotic foods (or supps) would do squat...
I know we've been lied to 'n fed w/fear factor but I think a counter-op exists to wipe out the baby with the bathwarter (all babies!)... The new push is ta say no vitamins help ever ever... bacteria, germs, do not exist... but I think we need ta proceed with a modicum of common sense... some things (vit c includin' synthetic) kin perform miracles (I swear by the orthomolecular approach) -- we've gotten rid of food poisonin' an' all manner of ills with mega C... (which quite a few try ta dismiss as just chemic-ulls from chyna... we git the non-gmo kind from scottland...) Anywhoo... ditto fer "germs" whatever they are--I know the virus thing is balloney--but JJCouey tries ta splain that if we throw out all forms of passin' along disease--an' just say oh, it's just frequency, oh it's just the cold, oh it's just unhealthy diet--it's just a different OP on the other side even tho' we know ALL these factors do affect "transmission"... but transmission exists...in real time (we just don't understand the apparatus nor do the "docs" yet...imho)
IMHO we wanna question everythin', toss out Rocky-fellah medi-SIN an' yet not toss out real knowledge gained / gleaned over thousands of years... If germs were fiction how come just warshin' yer hands stops folks gettin' sick or worse (like the dokturds that killed their patients havin' dissected corpses 'fore deliverin' babies whilst all them midwives knew ta use hot water an' soap an' had NO such losses in the lives of the mamas or babies they helped bring inta the world)
I DO agree that frequency & light are a huge factor tho'! Anywho.... the psychopaths are lettin' us in on their genocide b/c it's a real kinda thing to "reveal the method" at some point... (gematria ain't my speciality)... collective adrenochrome invocation (ha ha) I dunno--but fer many moons it all WAS secret... OR at least submerged (within predictive programmin' fer example). I'm just keepin' my ears open!
I do like yer addition to the mix of some parasites bein' good tho'--interestin' "you stuff! ;-) "
Thank you for your response. Probiotics and fermented foods are amazing. I am sorry that you had symptoms like that! I am gonna do some digging on some of the info you sent. Thank you.
yup an' herbs too! Stephen Buhner was the best protocol... (funny story--I got lyme by "goin'" in the woods in tall grass--Catskills if ye know 'em--my girls REFUSED to pee in the woods an' I teased 'em 'bout it too--they used the official loo a little hike away--I got lyme, they didn't! they had the last laff...I've had the gift that keeps on givin' fer over a decade! (probiotics are good for lyme too as...ye wanna clear everything-toxin out "regularly" lol)
Our gut biomes are so important for our health!!!! Peeing in the woods or at gas stations is scary business for a girl!!!! LOL. I totally would do the same. With your diagnosis...I am totally curious...have you ever done a heavy metal screen or done any kind of toxicology screen to see if anything shows up? Does your lab work show up as normal if you have it done? I am gonna do a deep dive on Lyme now. Of course you totally don't have to answer. I am being totally intrusive. Just if you want to share...
yup! only thing higher than normal on recent heavy metals was lead--Doctor's Data--but that's likely from our funky old house (long story but we had ta leave NYShitty as both the mister & I were outta work for not takin' the countermeasures)--I've done a detox since... gives a new meanin' ta "gettin' the lead out!" -- could be heavy metals have a signal of their own... I would not have conventional Lyme testin' done--it's unreliable an' spendy--I had friends that treated it conventionally an' fared lots worse than I.... an' the holistic ones (most) don't even bother testin'.... jus sayin'
Fascinating about the ticks going after people who are immune system vulnerable. I knew a woman at work who had lyme for years. She had vacation property somewhere near Lyme, CN.
Initially she didn't know what it was. It was denied and hard to find treatment. She had a number of joint problems as a result of being blown off by doctors and not finding any treatment. Lately there is more info about it.
yup, it's anecdotal but seems ta apply to literally everyone I know that got Lyme... an' this fella I knew that grew up in CT (born in the 80's) an' got tick bites all the time had ZERO auto-immune issues (no allergies, eczema, nothin') so it sez that certain folks are less vulnerable (or "run" at a frequency that keeps 'em safe!)
Nice discussion about not wanting to wholesale kill "bad" things off, or rather things that have been designated as bad, but many of which may be helpful.
Here is another angle from which to see cancer: Dr. Jason Fung* talks about the links between intermittent fasting, diabetes and cancer. He focuses on a new way of seeing insulin.
Old way: Insulin pushes glucose into cells that have become "insulin resistent". Problems arise when type 2 diabetics are given insulin, it ultimately makes matters worse, including making weight very hard to lose/obesity. Then the association between obesity and cancer.
New way: Insulin is a growth factor. We don't want to overdose on a growth factor which "feeds" cancerous cells. Fasting under certain conditions can help reverse this.
https://youtu.be/RrGK3abwv0Q?feature=shared
Intermittent fasting can help with inflammation as well.
Not sure I did this justice, but a summary anyhow, if you want accurate details, etc. at the youtube link.
This leads me to think about how sugar and junk food, high carbs, etc are a factor both in the gut biome and insulin production.
*I'm a fan of Dr Fung's approach to intermittent fasting. Once I cut out sugar and those high carbs and then started to follow his plan, I lost weight effortlessly, without a lot of fuss. I'd already gone off sugar/high carbs and that was a week or two of intense cravings. He talks about this in his book. I started to feel great once doing this and went from hovering around overweight to the bottom of normal weight. I'd tried for decades to lose that weight, but his approach worked for me. My inflammation decreased considerably.